barack obama, but do so with 332 electoral vo votes." so the problem wasn't too many ads or not enough ads. it was pouring money into a message that ultimately appeared to be out of sync with the majority of voters. joan, one of the problems here that people on the left and particularly in the blog sphere, which is more critical of the political class and more critical of some of the traditional media, the critique has been that republicans get to move the goal line, not only in negotiation, which might be good strategy, but in the factual underpinnings of our discussion. whether it's climate change where the science doesn't add up, or as we saw in the final couple of weeks of this debate, in the polling and math and the electoral votes and early votes and everything we could count showed an obama edge. but the republicans sort of did something tough to themselves. they really shocked and awed their own base, because they weren't ready for this. >> well, i think it's very interesting, because i go back to that interview, i think it was r